Topic: I now have IRREFUTABLE PROOF that the world's final year is 2012!

[VANGUARD]

I can't wait for December 22nd, 2012 to get this as I put it, idiotic hoax out of the way.

Let's face it. If your mind isn't open on new ideas, I and anyone else can fill this page up with "facts" and it won't change your mind. I don't mind conversations, and believing in both sides, but this is another classic case where people are already not wanting to talk about this because it won't change a persons mind.

Here is my thing in a nutshell. I believe that God, and God alone knows the end of the world. Jesus, the Son of God, "doesn't" know the last day. He is the Son of God, and He doesn't. What makes a single person believe that any man or woman on the face of the earth believe they know the last day? God knows EVERYTHING about us. He knows our past, present, future, how many strains of hair we have, how much fat is in our body, what friends and jobs we'll have soon, etc.
If Jesus doesn't know, we don't know.

Like I said though, even if I poured out a page of facts on this, some will still not believe in me.
So, again, this is how I see it.

If you believe and know God, what I have mentioned up there, you will know it won't end on 12.21.12.
If for any reason you do believe in the end of the world, why stock up? You stock up on so much, and then you die? That makes no sense.
If you really want to live past this, that's your choice. I don't care to. I don't believe it will end, but I don't care to stick around. Unless the Lord has other plans, I'd rather die and be with God in Heaven.

If you think Adam and Eve started off with few people, well, BIG difference.
God created a beautiful world with animals and plants, water, etc.
It's a fresh (pun intended) new world.
After this so called end of the world 2012 thing, um, yeah, it won't be fresh. It won't be pretty.

Do what you want, believe what you want. I am not here to push anyone into anything. I don't see a reason for this 2012 end of the world hoax. If you do, well, I guess you do.

And if I am wrong, I don't care. I will be with God with no worries, no pain, no suffering, no regrets. I will only be thinking of Him, and praising Him.

Thanks for your time.

[Scyphi]

I can't wait for December 22nd, 2012 to get this as I put it, idiotic hoax out of the way.

Ditto this, for similar reasons. I won't bore y'all with the details though.

[Kaiaatzl]

I agree, though nothing so eloquent for me Vanguard, I don't understand why we're listening to things that may or may not be predictions, by an ancient civilization, when we are a far more advanced civilization who have found no evidence that this is even a prediction at all, much less that this civilization had some way of predicting worlds ending that we do not.
Besides, if you listened to everyone on the street the end of the world apparently happens at least three times a year.

[CrazyEnzo03]

I can't wait for December 22nd, 2012 to get this as I put it, idiotic hoax out of the way.

Nononononononono...

The world will end on December 21st, 2012.

You see, I have this friend.

He is Irish.

He also turns 21 that day.

[TechPro]

But for a synchronous numbered day, wouldn't Decenber 12, 2012 be better? (12/12/12)

[Alieo]

But for a synchronous numbered day, wouldn't Decenber 12, 2012 be better? (12/12/12)

The Mayans were lysdexic like me!

[CrazyEnzo03]

Supposed to coincide with the winter solstice..

[Kaiaatzl]

But didn't the Mayans live in a tropical area where they would not have had winter?  The differences between the lengths of days aren't very big at all in tropical places either...  Maybe a few seconds.  But who knows, if they had the ability to make predictions that we should listen to maybe they had the instruments to measure the length of a day that accurately.

[-<WillyP>-]

[Scyphi]

Supposed to coincide with the winter solstice..

Not that really affects anything. I mean, the winter solstice comes by every year.

[CrazyEnzo03]

The winter solstice is where they marked the end of the year.  It makes sense too if you think about it.

That's the entire reason the calendar ends on that day.  It was the end of their year.

[NUMBERZero]

Has anybody ever thought that the guy making the calendar so many years ago got bored and stopped when he finished that year?

[Scyphi]

I already said something along those lines. That's probably all it is.

[SaladBadger]

Given the way the long count calendar works though, that isn't very logical. The Mayan calendar doesn't have a large listing of all of the dates, or anything like that. The Mayan calendar is in theory limitless, if they were to keep on stacking more broad measurements to it, like how we have centuries, which are much more broad than decades, and the like.

If you see a statement like this, complete with a picture of the "mayan calendar", chances are that the stone circle thing is simply nothing more than the Aztec calendar stone, an entirely different beast.

(also, I don't think the mayans actually attached anything important to the completion of the 13th bak'tun, aside from the fact that it's the completion of the 13th 400 year cycle, or bak'tun)

[Matthew]

Then how can the mayan calendar "end"?